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[Shadows]

I can't bring myself to watch this, but its a rather old video thats been called the most gut churning video of all time.  Be sure to read the disclaimers before watching
http://robertlindsay.blogspot.com/2008/07/six-russian-conscripts-beheading_7739.html

[Mike]

Why the fuck would you even post this? You guys are fucking sick if you look at this. Why anyone would want to watch someone be killed, especially like this is beyond me.

[Shadows]

Because i know people who've watched this after being rick rolled into it without the warning.  Yes its fucked up. Yes its wrong to be on the internet.  But i felt obligated to share it with you guys for whatever reason.  I'm in no way condoning this shit or saying you should watch it.

[Andrew]

Wow.  I can't believe I watched through the guy getting gargled up, he was like arrhrhrhrhrhrhrhhrhrggggg, dead.

[Dan]

But i felt obligated to share it with you guys for whatever reason.

and ummm what reason might that be?


andrew thats really not appropriate, that is a human life being taken. 

[Shadows]

But i felt obligated to share it with you guys for whatever reason.

and ummm what reason might that be?


andrew thats really not appropriate, that is a human life being taken. 

I honestly have no idea, its one of those things where its so horrible you want others to know about it..
Andrew what the fuck man.. i don't know how you can say that to a video of six innocent people having their heads slowly sawed off, especially when the men on screen cry and and try to crawl away as they are hacked apart.

[Andrew]

I didn't mean what I said, it's hard to show emotions correctly in an online forum.  I only watched it cause Shadows said it was something Rick Roll, so I thought it was another Rick Roll.  But it definately wasn't.  it even felt like a rickroll reading the guy's post saying DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT dO NOT WATCH!

But many people think it's a fake video.

[Shadows]

Its confirmed as real, theres another video that is a Russian Neo-Nazi response thats being investigated by the German and Russian police as well.

[Adam]

Fucked up way beyond.

[Stalker]

Well, as atrocious as it is. I do not think it is inappropriate to watch or post this because this might hit someone so hard that it forces them to do something about it. I am sure things like this happen all of the time, so as they say. knowledge is strength information is power. I sure as hell couldn't finish the video, and it sure as hell makes it more likely to stop now that the journalist put this on the internet and perhaps even in this board.

[Dan]

This video has literally been haunting me all day, the part where the guy reaches up to wipe his eye even with his neck cut half way through had been on a constant loop in my head. It was at the point where I felt sick even thinking about it.

Edit: I posted this and then for whatever reason thought it would be a good idea to watch the neo-nazi one, I got half way through it (it was one of the "I can't look away things") before I began to dry heave. There are shock videos (Pain Olympics, 2 Girls 1 Cup) and then there is this. Id go as far as to say this shit should not even be on the internet.

[Mike]

Well, as atrocious as it is. I do not think it is inappropriate to watch or post this because this might hit someone so hard that it forces them to do something about it. I am sure things like this happen all of the time, so as they say. knowledge is strength information is power. I sure as hell couldn't finish the video, and it sure as hell makes it more likely to stop now that the journalist put this on the internet and perhaps even in this board.

Holy fuck. You're the most annoying idealist ever. This video itself wasn't made by a journalist trying to force people into action. It was made by Neo-Nazi's trying to terrorize, to disgust and shock. I'm willing to bet money that the latter reaction is the more common one. We don't need a video to know teach us to not like terror, its plainly understood that no one but the terrorists want terror. Despite that you think that if you remember all the names of whatever chain of command and you wake up at 4:30 to go lifting, you're not going to stop terrorism. You can kill as many terrorist leaders as you want, but you will never stop terrorism.

[Dan]

Well, as atrocious as it is. I do not think it is inappropriate to watch or post this because this might hit someone so hard that it forces them to do something about it. I am sure things like this happen all of the time, so as they say. knowledge is strength information is power. I sure as hell couldn't finish the video, and it sure as hell makes it more likely to stop now that the journalist put this on the internet and perhaps even in this board.

Holy fuck. You're the most annoying idealist ever. This video itself wasn't made by a journalist trying to force people into action. It was made by Neo-Nazi's trying to terrorize, to disgust and shock. I'm willing to bet money that the latter reaction is the more common one. We don't need a video to know teach us to not like terror, its plainly understood that no one but the terrorists want terror. Despite that you think that if you remember all the names of whatever chain of command and you wake up at 4:30 to go lifting, you're not going to stop terrorism. You can kill as many terrorist leaders as you want, but you will never stop terrorism.

I agree 100%

Stalker this is not some anti-terrorism ad, this is peoples friends and family being brutally murdered on video tape. Sadly the videos are on the internet, and are being looked upon by some as "shock" videos.

[Stalker]

Well, not saying I could, just saying someone might have the money to fund an operation and had the drive to put a stop to this. Say someone in the future forms a private contracting company and is driven by this video to stop it. Maybe it is a shot in the dark but I'm just saying it could happen. And the guy who posted the video, this Robert Lindsay is a journalist. Just read the main page. And for the record, I wont even be fighting terrorism. I am going small arms technician, a gunsmith, not infantry and I have said that numerous times. I would not be able to take a life, terrorist or not, without being screwed up. I don't think that comment was fair.

[Shadows]

Holy fuck. You're the most annoying idealist ever. This video itself wasn't made by a journalist trying to force people into action. It was made by Neo-Nazi's trying to terrorize, to disgust and shock. I'm willing to bet money that the latter reaction is the more common one. We don't need a video to know teach us to not like terror, its plainly understood that no one but the terrorists want terror. Despite that you think that if you remember all the names of whatever chain of command and you wake up at 4:30 to go lifting, you're not going to stop terrorism. You can kill as many terrorist leaders as you want, but you will never stop terrorism.

Just to clarify, this is not a video of Neo-Nazis killing, it is a video of 6 Russian conscripts being killed by Chechnyan muslims.  The Neo-Nazi video myself and Dan mention is the response to this video where Russian Neo-Nazis kill 2 muslims in response to the original video.  As for Stalker's comment, I can't totally condemn it, he wasn't stating that the video was made for the purpose of shocking people straight, he was stating his opinion that by REPOSTING this the journalist may be trying to show people just how terrible the world can be.  Think about it, during WWII nobody did a shit about Hitler and his extermination of the jews until he threatened their borders.  It was only after the allies uncovered the extermination camps that this idea of genocide truly hit home and shocked the allied nations into realizing just how terrible Hitler was.  Although these terrorists have posted this video as a way of demoralizing and shocking the Russians, almost bragging at their strength, all they have done is hurt their own cause.  By watching this video many have seen just how terrible these organizations can be, seen the true reason for the war on terrorism.  Sometimes things like this are needed to shock the world out of ignorance.  Your comment about his JROTC, regardless of my attempts to figure out whether or not they are indeed true is still fucked up and unprovoked.  Anybody who is willing to sign away their life in the name of their country, regardless of whether they be a cook or gunsmith, deserves every bit of your respect, especially when you live under the safety they provide.  Imagine if everyone shared your opinion, your idea that nobody can make a difference and that all efforts to stop terrorism are in vain.  I ask you this, what the fuck have you done? As it stands over 4,000 american soldiers have died in Iraq since 9/11, you say in vain, yet in those 7 years since that terrible day we have yet to be attacked again, especially significant considering that the attacks on the World Trade Center were described as "just the beginning".  I can sit here all day and scarecrow the fuck out of your argument, but I'll leave you with this, until you've actually done something with your life besides take advantage of the opportunities OTHER PEOPLE have given you, don't fucking act like you have any idea how the world works.